Tim Maroney ([info]tim_maroney) wrote,
@ 2003-05-27 15:48:00
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smarter than the average goals
Today I read [info]keith418's pieces on SMART goals for the OTO. The SMART formula seems workable enough, although I am always wary of smarmy, over-marketed planning models. We might ask why we should concentrate on goals and strategy rather than on requirements, whether a matrix organization or a traditional hierarchy would better fit the organizational goals, or whether specific process and workflow models from business could be useful to us, rather than focusing on the SMART framework, which bears on a limited domain. But many organizations including the OTO do have problems that could be addressed through this model, so it seems like a reasonable starting point for discussion.

Under Strategy, which in nearly any other formulation of SMART goals would stand for Specific instead, I do not find much in the way of useful suggestions for a strategy. There is a characteristic pattern in Keith's discourse that is evident here, which is to insist vehemently and as if it is something everyone knows that "the leaders" are tragically deficient, without really saying how or pointing out any specific examples. Despite appearances, it is not would-be rabble-rousing; it appeals instead to rebels without a cause. They identify with the desire to lash out at some authority to prove their own individuality, but they don't want to get in any trouble, or go to the trouble of developing a Specific (there's that S again) alternative. True to form, rather than present a strategy Keith decries the faceless leadership's supposed lack of same.

The OTO has a strategic vision. It's basically the same as Crowley's though it has needed some tuning. The vision of the OTO is to be a crucible of initiatory spiritual transformation, in which a small number of highly capable people are presented with the opportunity to distinguish themselves before the current caretakers, and become the caretakers of the crucible in turn. The Mysteries of the group both embody the crucible of initiation and are sustained and sheltered by it. The project is multigenerational and in its early stages. I'm not sure why it would seem the leadership does not have this strategic vision.

Measurable is the real meat of any program. It's not only how you know whether you succeed or fail -- it's how you navigate toward your goal.

There are a variety of ways we could measure whether the crucible is actually fostering personal change and growth, but that of course would be psychology, which for some reason is anathematic, even though SMART goals themselves come from organizational psychology. Instead, the goals we see laid out before us, after wading through a few more paragraphs of vague denunciations of the faceless leaders, are not the ones we would necessarily think would be paramount for a spiritual group: money, property, membership size, and management choices. Of these I think the last, management choice, is the only really significant one of the four for a group that is not about money, and does not seek to convert the world.

On the subject of money Keith seems distant from the OTO of which I am a member. "I am asked to contribute to the legal fund, but not to a building fund, a charity fund, an internal publications fund, or any number of other areas." I've seen fundraising projects of these types, and many others, and contributed to some of them. Most of my donations go either to a local body or to OTO USA rather than to a particular fund, since I think earmarking unnecessarily complicates bookkeeping. Thankfully, I have never yet had reason to think that fundraising had become a primary goal of the organization, rather than a necessary evil.

To the extent that the property question is useful for the group it is being addressed through the national building fund. Owning property is not necessarily the best goal at this point. Tax liability has driven many fraternal lodges into receivership. We have been transitioning by policy to the use of neutral meeting grounds rather than private homes. A number of dedicated facilities have sprung up around the more successful local bodies already, by the hard work and support of the people in those communities. There seem to be sensible policies on property and they seem to be bearing fruit.

In membership Keith says that we do not watch membership numbers and strongly implies that we are losing members. Again, size of membership is not necessarily a good goal for the OTO, though we would expect it to grow if it were healthy. Membership numbers are published annually, by region and degree. They show a slow, incremental increase over the years. So I'm not sure what exactly the problem is here, or what justifies this classic KS substance-free rant:

If we have been losing members, are our leaders engaged in objective analysis and examination of the factors creating this loss, or spin and excuses that are entirely self-serving and subjective? One needn't debate the "quantity vs. quality" issue here at all, but what can ask – “What do the numbers tell us?” If this question is being asked, who is it being shared with and how? Good leaders admit that there are serious problems based on measurable factors and address them. Poor leaders spin away at the problem and obfuscate around the evidence. If the leaders do it, can we expect any different from their followers?

However, Keith does proceed to one point where he and I agree, which is that the OTO has had a bad track record in leadership choices. "If I was running a business it might naturally be my job to appoint managers. If I had a bad track record with my appointees, if many of them quit the company or had to be fired in disgrace, what would that indicate about my ability to judge character? Would subordinates naturally wonder what other skills I might be lacking?" This is one area where I am also greatly frustrated with the OTO. This frustration is only marginally abated by the fact that most businesses seem hard-pressed to find good managers. I hear the same concerns about leadership abilities from members of groups similar to ours, such as Pagan organizations and the Temple of Set, and in the history of other occult orders. As recent events have made clear, mainstream religions hardly seem to deal with the choice of leadership better than we do. I think we are facing a problem that is fundamentally hard for humans.

That is not to excuse the problem, only to contextualize it. It is a problem so serious that our continued existence and the rightness of that existence are both threatened. Perhaps it is hard to solve in part because it is so important. Here I am glad to say that there are tangible signs of improvement. Unwise choices from the past fall away -- or are pushed where necessary -- faster than before, and later-generation leaders (often but not always younger) have taken and are taking their chairs. The middle and upper degrees have expanded and been refreshed, and there is much more scrutiny of local body masters and those who wish to apply to speak for the Order, as opposed to the very damaging anything-goes and it's-their-funeral attitude toward volunteers from the 1970's to about the early 1990's. We are shifting to a governance of laws rather than of men, with the necessary concerns for due process and other forms of human rights and "business way." This work toward better internal process and less reliance on potentially whimsical and wrong leadership decisions is everywhere evident and to me it seems a serious attempt to deal with the problem, and one that so far has had tangible results for the better. I think, hope and pray there is more we can do but the direction of change is positive.

The next letter in SMART is "A", for accountable. Or, it is sometimes. Among the hundreds of SMART pep talks in a Google search I see A for Action-Oriented, and sometimes Attainable or Achievable, not Accountable, just as the S usually means Specific, not Strategic. These idiosyncratic usages appear almost as if someone had been bending the SMART concept to fit their critique. But not to quibble. Surely accountability is a principle with which no one could disagree. If someone shows that they can't handle a certain responsibility, then they won't continue to do so. It also means some investment in human resources will be respected and that people will receive warnings and be given the opportunity to discuss problem issues when possible. It's common-sense thinking about management, as many of these planning programs turn out to be, hidden behind acronyms and charts.

Yet while no one could disagree with the principle of accountability, Bro. Keith manages to put it in the most disagreeable way possible, as yet another protracted series of accusations against "the leaders". If we are going to take a motivational-speaking approach to planning, then let's at least be aware that talking about improvements and relief from pain points is going to sell better to almost any audience today than the fire and brimstone approach Keith actually takes in explaining, not accountability itself, but the dire consequences of lack of accountability.

Paragraphs pass before one real point bearing on the organization appears. There can be a problem with cronyism, and with the one-way nature of OTO degrees. This is almost lost in the spluttering, though:

Instead of ratifying accountability and demonstrating it, the hierarchy exists to thwart accountability and render it meaningless. This is easily seen when people of higher rank are allowed to get away with more and have more excuses made for them. There is no clearer evidence of inversion and the parody of rank and honors than that. This sets up a new diminishing spiral of expectations, so that one expects less and less from the hierarchy and makes more and more excuses for it. Naturally this serves to call into question its justification as local efforts, uninformed by the corrupt nature of the hierarchy, are seen as more effective and have greater practical justification. How many then notice the very damning questions this situation brings to bear?

I've heard fewer cronyism complaints of late than I used to hear -- again, around the time when the OTO started to shift more toward a basis I could identify with, in the mid-1990's, when two particularly unpleasant leaders were held accountable and selected out -- and I talk with a lot more people these days. I think it is a problem in any small self-governing group and that it has been and continues to be a problem in the OTO. As I said with respect to leadership choices, I see distinct measures of progress. I am not going to say too much about procedure at this level, especially since it is not something of which I am directly part. However, the improvement of the Grand Tribunal, the shift of the Electoral College from a forum for accusations to a policy-making and leadership-selecting body governing the Man of Earth, the understanding that international members or even national members of the VII may not exercise the privileges of the SGIG in all cases, and the apparent increase in activity by Chapters of Rose-Croix, all seem like positive moves toward correct and accountable internal governance.

Moving on past the ominous closing comment that "In the long run the implicit conflict, caused by a steady opposition to real accountability, will doom the hierarchy much more than admitting to failures, and accepting accountability for them, ever will", we proceed to realistic. This seems like a peculiar word to use for a spiritual program, and Keith does note the issue himself. In typical KS fashion the inherent tension between realism and spirituality is stated as a blast against mystics as contrasted with magicians, who are presumably much more realistic. Beyond this we are given no particular statement of what the realistic goals should be, and I am left with no response but to note that the areas where I have seen improvement are, unlike some spiritual areas, ones to which pragmatic and realistic criteria apply.

Finally we come to T for Time Line, or more normally, Timely. Personally I am part of this every time my local body, Mons Abiegnus Oasis, has an event. We need to be timely on this meso-level, but on the macro-level, we who tend the OTO are more like farmers or gardeners than entrepreneurs. We are not trying to double profit for the fiscal year, or beat the three-minute mile, or sell insurance, all normal SMART domains. Our Mysteries are alive and we tend them, improving in that as we go, and hopefully leaving something better for the next wave of caretakers than we have gotten in our turn. A multigenerational spiritual project grows toward goals that vary across generations, can't be imposed by mandate, require field trials that last for years, and necessarily adapt to an unpredictably changing environment.

I think it is hard but also unnecessary for me to answer Keith's question "What can we expect from our communities in our lifetime?" Over a long time horizon, I don't think detail planning is fruitful. Neither myself nor anyone alive can tell us where the human species will be in fifty years, much less the OTO. As long as the Mystery of the OTO is alive and transforming itself into something better I am willing to work with it. I do not control the OTO, nor does any one person or one generation. It may transform itself into something I would not choose to associate myself with, either during my life, or after it. These are risks I am prepared to accept. During this period of my life I am one of the many people helping to improve the OTO, and that is what I'm looking for, not assurances that we will own churches by the time I enter my dotage. Others' goals may well differ, and be no less smart than mine. And yet, as Robert S. Rubin reminds us in his paper on acronym drift, Will the Real SMART Goals Please Stand Up?, “only one thing remains clear, not all SMART goals are created equal.”



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Assorted Thoughts
[info]royalbananafish
2003-05-27 05:21 pm UTC (link)
I'm with you on the financial commentary. While I cannot pinpoint precisely what happens to my national dues, I know that they subsidize things from which I benefit, such as internal publications. Most of the money I have given to the OTO has been given to my local body (much more than I have paid to national). I see the financial report once a month, and know exactly what happens to my contributions. I also know exactly what happens to my in-kind contributions.

As for leadership, I'd say the OTO has done much better than the other quasi-hierarchical organization with which I am most familiar, CMA. (And CMA is a democracy, which the OTO is definitely not.)

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Re: Assorted Thoughts
[info]tim_maroney
2003-05-27 06:05 pm UTC (link)
Any OTO member can get its financial statement and see where the money (such as it is) goes on a higher level as well. I have yet to see a financial complaint against or critique of the OTO that was based on specific figures.

The only CMA I know is in central Texas, and while a lot of good people seem happy to participate in its events, I don't hear much good about the dynamics of paganism in the vicinity on the national grapevine. It seems to be a troubled community.

Honestly, I don't think many humans make good leaders. That doesn't mean we should put up with poor leadership choices in the OTO but I haven't seen in my short life a lot of organizations that have had a good record in this area. In the OTO, there is a problem but I don't understand Keith's intensity of vitriol there -- it could be a whole lot worse than it is today. I certainly don't think the people I interact with who appear to be members of the upper degrees and governing bodies of OTO are incompetent, unintelligent or ill-meaning, with very few exceptions. They're people I feel I can work with, even though we don't always agree.

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you sniveling lapdog of the bourgeoisie
[info]phygelus
2003-05-27 05:54 pm UTC (link)
Hey, thanks Tim, this made my afternoon.

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Re: you sniveling lapdog of the bourgeoisie
[info]tim_maroney
2003-05-27 06:11 pm UTC (link)
Only God can make an afternoon. This was understood by the Hyperboreans. If you would bother to think about the roots of the problem, then you would see that it is clearly stated in what I have said. The puerile "leaders" who pretend to govern us are no more than the very same egalitarians and other opponents of the clear-thinking which I intend to record elsewhere if I am allowed to do so and not stoned to death by my critics who resent this "Sin" of inquiry with which I challenge the leaders and other counter-revolutionaries. They must be eradicated at any cost.

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"...at night, the ice weasels come." --- Saint N.
[info]phygelus
2003-05-28 02:07 am UTC (link)
If you'd read Heinz F. von Obergrombach's Unverfuegbare Selbstverlagene Gesamtwerke, particularly the notes to the 1952 edition (be prepared to dig a little), you'd know that the Hyperboreans stood in direct opposition to the values I keep seeing espoused by the Thelemic community. I wonder if no one but me is willing to do the back-breaking work involved in reading this important and highly relevant work carefully. It directly applies to the implicit conflict I see between the position you espouse here and the true meaning of the core material of Thelema.

That said, I'm glad to see that someone else is finally beginning to get it. Serious investigation into the deeper issues presented in my critiques is unfortunately all too rare these days. And if we are not serious, what are we?

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Re: "...at night, the ice weasels come." --- Saint N.
[info]tim_maroney
2003-05-28 11:44 am UTC (link)
Thank you very much for your efforts. Few can even understand you or me, so we know that we are very wise. How many could even grasp the reference you make? You are too kind to spell out the name -- I prefer to say simply HFvO and laugh at the fools. Their pampered liberal minds have gone soft with sentimentality and ressentiment, and they would only fall back to such politically correct arguments as quibbling over HFvO's (!) pamphlet of recipes for the flesh of the nibelung, as he referred to inferiors and degenerates. And how many more could overcome their inner weakness and short-sighted belief in "evil" and actually sample these recipes, discovering they showed extensive insight into the subtleties of the ingredients, which the bourgeois could never hope to grasp, raised as they are on vegetables and pudding? Their faltering indecision demonstrates their basic conflict over such core materials as III:11: "be upon them, o warrior, I will give you of their flesh to eat!" No, my friend, my cartoon sidekick, my love, only you and those few strong souls like us keep alive the dream.

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Re: "...at night, the ice weasels come." --- Saint N.
[info]phygelus
2003-05-28 12:47 pm UTC (link)
The problem as I see it is that the more advanced recipes are so abhorrent to their cultivated need for safety and stasis that they do not even attempt to prepare HFvO's spinach salad---the very first recipe in the pamphlet! Why do you think I keep insisting people review my collection of Popeye cartoons? They are unwilling to examine the basis of their tastes, and until they make that effort, they are like Choronzon crying "I yam what I yam" in the flickering waste of the abyss. Until they have progressed past eating the spinach, they will have no inkling of the superhuman strength that the few are called to in Liber Call me Al II:56: "Laugh while you still can, mockers! They laughed at me at the University, but now, now I will show them! Ahahaha!"

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Re: you sniveling lapdog of the bourgeoisie
[info]sphinxie
2003-05-28 06:51 am UTC (link)
Tim, I think I love you. :)

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Re: you sniveling lapdog of the bourgeoisie
[info]tim_maroney
2003-05-28 11:48 am UTC (link)
Why do I seem to hear Material Issue?

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[info]thiebes
2003-05-28 04:57 am UTC (link)
Well said! I agree that Keith's vitriol is difficult to wade through and that many of his points are vacuous.

Regarding the acronym particulars, I think Keith's rendering makes the most sense. "Specific" is only an elaboration on "measurable," and "attainable" and "achievable" are only synonyms for "realistic." "Action-oriented" might be a suitable compound word for the A, but anything that is accountable is implicitly action-oriented.

As far as your critique of Keith goes, as I said I agree with your overall assessment of his modus operandi. One thing that I would point out is that SMART should be a diagnostic tool used to examine goals, not people. My impression has been that Keith is not criticizing the leadership for not being SMART - he's criticizing them for not having goals which are. OTO leadership unquestionably has goals. But are they SMART? It's difficult to know, being outside the relevant e-lists and discussions. I have not yet seen a SMART goal presented by Grand Lodge, but that doesn't mean that they do not exist, and there is evidence to suggest that they do (i.e., progress is apparent, in a regular and seemingly planned fashion, toward implementation of the Blue Equinox).

Since there is a Grand Lodge building fund, for which donations have been earmarked and solicitations made, so I think Keith is wrong that he hasn't been asked to donate to it. Perhaps he once again failed to read his email (like when he was sent the OTO FAQ ahead of time to critique, but didn't get around to it until he had the opportunity to do so on his LJ).

In any case, I do see the utility of the SMART diagnostic as Keith has presented it. I use it constantly (since long before I entered OTO) and have taught others to do so. It makes life easier, especially when yer a flake like me, to have goals that meet these criteria. It just clarifies everything. I don't think that it's a useful diagnostic for critiquing the OTO or its leadership though. It doesn't make sense to ask whether a person or organization is "strategic, accountable, realistic, and time-based." I mean, you could ask that question, and someone could answer it, but that doesn't really suggest anything about the merits of the organization or lack thereof. The point of SMART goals is for organizations to use it to make goals that are well-formed, thought out, and clear.

Also I'd like to point out that the SMART diagnostic needn't be applied in order for a goal to have the characteristics of a SMART goal. That is, a goal may be SMART even if the person who crafted it is entirely unaware of the acronym. In my experience observing myself and others, goals which are not SMART never get accomplished. Yet, the OTO has goals, and is accomplishing them in graduated stages. This is a strong indication to me that the short-term goals they are setting would probably pass the SMART diagnostic, regardless if the acronym is ever explicitly used. By their fruits ye shall know them and all...

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[info]tim_maroney
2003-05-28 11:24 am UTC (link)
Thanks for your thoughts, Joe!

I acknowledge that SMART goals is a workable formulation within the limits of goal-directed approaches to organizational problem-solving. I also think it is overmarketed, that the title indulges in a shameful pandering to the audience's vanity, and that it can be (and often is) used in a way that suggests an argument from authority. I don't think aligning a plan with a SMART model could be anything more than a quick first look at its overall sanity, and I also think there are inherent problems in applying a short-term-goal-directed approach to a spiritual and cultural endeavor.

One of the good points I thought Rubin made in his Society for Industrial and Organizational Psychology piece was that SMART goals survive and remain useful despite the seemingly debilitating mutation of the acronym because "part of the value of SMART goals is that it focuses people on the act of setting goals and prompts discussion of these goals with others -- which in and of itself holds merit." I suggest that any reasonable review-oriented and goal-driven procedure would work about as well as the SMART formulation in any of its variations. Given your statement that "the SMART diagnostic needn't be applied in order for a goal to have the characteristics of a SMART goal. That is, a goal may be SMART even if the person who crafted it is entirely unaware of the acronym" I think we may be pretty much on the same page about the need for the SMART formula per se.

I also agree with your excellent point that the method is to be used to evaluate goals, not people. On those few issues where I agree to some extent with Keith that a problem exists, they are in human resources and management choice areas. These are more humanistic questions and so harder to develop in a purely goal-driven way -- again, more like gardening than entrepreneurship, though the two can coexist. They must involve careful considerations of such factors as human feelings, the ability for people to grow and learn from their mistakes, making people know they are valued, judgment and cultivation of character and communication skills, fair disciplinary procedures, constructive criticism and review processes, and the development and maintenance of a feeling of collegiality. I don't mean to say that goals shouldn't be set and tracked in these areas, only that goals can only describe one small part of the process.

This is a garden that I see the leadership tending, and one in which results over the last decade or so have been striking. We still have a long way to go but we have already come a long way as well. From reading his entries, I believe that these improvements are exactly where Keith would like to turn the clock back -- that they are the things in the OTO he is condemning as sentimental and egalitarian. I see them as necessary to the function of any successful organization, and especially any organization expressing the humanistic principle of Liberty and the Masonic principles of fraternal decorum and "perfect equality" in Lodge (cf. CI).

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[info]rodneyorpheus
2003-05-28 05:35 am UTC (link)
Some time ago I was consulting for a (nameless) corporation when they had a SMART presentation. It was given by a sweaty, fat, awkward middle-aged man in a remarkably shapeless suit, and his "past-her-prime-and-attempting-vainly-to-cover-it-with-too-much-makeup" assistant. I unashamedly and unapologetically laughed loudly throughout; since it was clear that they were completely clueless on:

a: how corporations actually WORK
b: basic human motivations (apart from a smattering of pop psychology that they obviously didn't understand but knew how to repeat to impress people)
c: life in general

At the end of the presentation I was asked what I thought. My answer was something along the lines of:

"If being SMART means being a snake-oil salesman completely bereft of any semblance of style or substance, I'll stick to being STUPID, thank you very much."

In my experience, at least 93% of corporate problems are not due to lack of specific goals etc., they are due to incompetent middle managers empire-building by playing dumb political games with good workers, and enthusiastically embracing any and all vacuous restructuring plans that enable them to solidify their own position despite their basic inability to do a damn thing of any real use.

Nothing I see here gives me cause to reconsider that opinion.

Love & kisses,

Rodney

P.S. This month's variation on this was a middle manager wanting to buy a web based conferencing tool. I had to slowly and carefully explain the concept of Instant Messenger to a bunch of management people. And why a free cross-platform system was better than a proprietary, Windows, ActiveX based solution that cost an arm and a leg. And that didn't even do video, despite the marketing material implying that it did. And this was in a *software company*. Sigh.

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[info]tim_maroney
2003-05-28 12:11 pm UTC (link)
A Google search will turn up plenty of men in bad suits trying to sell you something with SMART. As I discuss above with Joe, I don't think it's bad as a basic sanity check goals in applicable domains. It overdresses a simpler method in which the actual effectiveness lies, which is having measurable goals and discussing them. It's good to do that but it's sad to see that so many organizations actually need to be told something that basic.

A lot of management and process consultancy consists of this kind of song and dance. I like to ask them questions about ordinary occurrences that don't fit into their simplistic formula and watch them twitch, especially if they've got some software product to sell that plainly can't be customized to an organization's own workflows. No need to tell someone they're a snake oil salesman if their own incapacity makes it painfully obvious.

Rant mode aside, there is a lot of good work on process in various fields, among which I would include as bearing on the OTO's domain Masonic manuals on decorum and jurisprudence, just as we now see Robert's Rules of Order bringing welcome relief to difficult meetings. I've also seen some work done using my favorite software process model, the CMM or Capability Maturity Model, which like any of these tools, requires adaptation to our own requirements, but still may have a lot to give us. I don't think there's anything wrong with SMART goals being included in the toolset, as long as they're applied well. Again, I think Joe has some good points on how to do that, and how they're not applied well in this case.

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nice
[info]ex_suti233
2003-05-28 10:52 am UTC (link)
While I disagree with just about every other thought you seem to have on Crowley, O.T.O., E.G.C., and Thelema, I must applaud you for this one. Well done and you raise some good points my brother. :) In particular, your comments about the 'strategic vision" of O.T.O. are right on mark in my book.

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Re: nice
[info]tim_maroney
2003-05-28 12:21 pm UTC (link)
Nothing wrong with disagreement. Our dialog is that of the mystic and the skeptic, in which there is another inherent tension. I'm glad that we come together on some points such as the strategic vision of the OTO in terms of a crucible of initiation and a vehicle for tending its Mystery through the generations. Of course, neither of us is actually a member of the Areopagus so for all either of us knows, that might be quite different from their private goals. I based my assertion on statements I have seen in public writings by people I believe to be Areopagus members but I don't speak for OTO on the question -- I'm just saying that from my perspective, I don't see the vision gap that Keith does.

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sorry to drop this here, but...
[info]daoistraver
2003-06-01 04:56 pm UTC (link)
apparently your comment on keith418's LJ was screened, so my reply couldn't go through.

I wanted to say - good point. I think some of the changes in the OTO regarding Liber CI were definitely advancements, in particular regarding "the frontal duty of womankind" or the human rights issue. I suppose my objection was primarily to the fact that they don't obligate members to materially aid one another, or the group(outside of dues). I think the parts of Liber CI regarding the material incorporation of the OTO were wise.
Personally, I don't think Crowley was the be-all and end-all of anything. He had a lot of good ideas. A lot of screwy ones too, esp. regarding the Jewish people, sexual boundaries and violence.

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Re: sorry to drop this here, but...
[info]tim_maroney
2003-06-01 11:49 pm UTC (link)
Yes, for some reason Keith prefers to screen my posts out rather than banning me.

Thanks for your thoughts and for clarifying your concerns. The issue you raise about material support is a valid one. A lot of the clarifications from Br. Sabazius seemed to be based on ethical trouble areas like "frontal duty" and the troglodyte issue. I don't think the material support issues were based on disagreement with the potentially positive nature of such a society. It's just that the OTO has never really been that and shouldn't (or perhaps can't) describe itself as such.

It's a complicated issue and a few back-and-forths suggest themselves. Charity is a normal function for fraternal orders and beneficial societies, and one could argue that it is part of the chartered goals of the OTO. One could also point out that pragmatically we have no way to serve that function at a low dues level and a few thousand members. The dues were certainly far higher in Crowley's day in adjusted terms, but membership numbers were low, perhaps for that reason. So far as I know none of these provisions were implemented in Crowley's day -- they always represented a hope for the future.

If we did want to provide internal charity, loans, etc., as in CI, then Keith's money and membership goals would be necessary. I personally do not think we should raise dues, and I imagine that it would be a much bigger problem for us if we did, both for retaining membership and public relations. You know a lot of people are still complaining about the one time they were raised slightly -- before that they'd been fixed in absolute numbers since AC's time, meaning they'd fallen radically in adjusted terms. They're still way lower in those terms even after the bump a few years back.

Another problem I would raise with the OTO trying to act as a traditional fraternal order or beneficial society in this regard is that the day of those societies is waning. During AC's life fraternal orders were huge and could serve such functions. Now their numbers are sharply down and they're fighting to stay alive. What they've been doing no longer works very well to support their survival or growth. Resuscitating a set of assumptions taken from that now-fading model seems like a dubious venture.

I don't know if you've run into the Order of Thelemic Knights. They're a non-OTO group trying to create a model of Thelemic charity, but a different one from CI. On considering your position I think I would have to agree with an abstracted version of it, which is that the OTO should do more to serve the charitable goals of CI, though I continue to doubt whether the organization would do well trying to adopt the charitable rules of CI literally.

I think I'm in complete agreement with your last paragraph! I also think it would get you labeled by Keith as someone who exhibits cognitive dissonance because of his fundamental conflict with the core materials....

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